Popular Post Mead Posted April 6, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) Reposted for Beta client I would like to see the OSRS switches made as the default for switching and made more responsive where you'll be able to tick a string of queued items quicker. My reasoning behind this as of now the OSRS switches on ROAT PKZ don't reflect (Old School Runescape) because switching has always been queued on Runescape and never "Instant Switches" as the "ROAT" switches suggests this is wrong. 1# - 2 Switching modes Having two item switch modes makes absolutely no sense at all, for one it puts said person at a disadvantage which is unfair as the "ROAT" is each Individual Item when pressed (Clicked) is equipped thus giving equipped equipment bonuses without actually updating any visual signs of Armour change which in hybridding for instance is a big factor. Roat Pkz item switching mode Roat Pkz switching bypasses game ticks that are 0.6 and makes it 0.0 with no queued delay As you can see in the pictures this is one of the many problems that are incorrect and need urgent fixing. How can you switch to tank armour/mage armour on [ROAT] switches being so instant that you'll still get damaged on your supposedly visual Tank armour it's so broken and this should be replaced with revamped OSRS switches and made default as I mentioned before. The game itself Runescape is designed to be at 0.6ms with queuing http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Game_tick because things start to fall apart and become broken most RSPS don't follow this a modify core things like this which is VITAL for a "PKING BASED SERVER" with the ROAT switches being at 0.0ms this is why Item switching should never be under 0.6ms. Other factors beside the actual game can even make Item switching worse having bad Internet connection & low ping are two things which will severely cripple you because you'll be susceptible to latency and lag which matter but is an issue that can be fixed. Remove the Roat Pkz switching & Replace with OSRS switching and improve the responsiveness. @Gretar ----- Continuing from post before - 07/4/2017 @Gretar 2# - Switching Tests [OSRS] ITEM SWITCHING MODE The click is set at 0.6ms to simulate test conditions for accurate measure. The switching mode has a queuing delay and the gear appropriately change when a click packet has been registered through the Roatz PK client and sent to the server, This updates the equipment visually on the character as well as the equipment bonuses on the equipment tab, everything is in sync. Normal speed GIF: This is why the Item switching mode should be set at 0.6ms with a quicker queuing sequence and OSRS switching as default switching and revamped accordingly as I previously mentioned before. The switching is not really responsive and doesn't allow quick input per click, notice in the video below I do a 6 way horizontal (top to bottom) then I proceed to switch back with another 6 way and doesn't register my items. The switching is not really responsive and doesn't allow quick input per click, notice in the video below I do a 8 way horizontal (top to bottom) then I proceed to switch back with another 8 way and doesn't register my items causing items not to be equipped in time first 8 way boots didn't equip. The second 8 way did not register my item clicks not equipping the leg switch, the boots was from the first 8 way as it was done subconsciously I would of completed both 8 way switch without a problem. The switching is not really responsive and doesn't allow quick input per click, notice in the video below I do a 6 equipment switch+ Helm and boot removal (8way) horizontal (top to bottom) then I proceed to switch back with another 6 way and doesn't register my items causing items not to be equipped in time first 6 way occult necklace didn't equip so it messed up my flow of switching making me re-adjust mid game tick to switch back to magic armour, if i completed the melee switch firecape + serp I would has been too late. This is why Osrs switching should be fixed because it is far too buggy. [ROAT] ITEM SWITCHING MODE The click is set at 0.6ms to simulate test conditions for accurate measure. This Item switching mode has no queuing when items are pressed(Clicked) the items are equipped and equipment bonuses update too quickly without actually updating any visual signs of Armour change. As you see in the video the items, equipment bonuses and inventory item switching is not in-sync. (Items are out of sync when clicked and this is currently what "ROAT PKZ SWITCHING" does completely false way for switching. Normal speed GIF: Speed 0.25x (slower) GIF: In the slower video gif you will see the items equip so fast that anywhere from (5-9 armour changes per second!!!!!) occur and they don't update visually this is broken, as people currently do most unrealistic and unnecessary fakes thinking they're switching so fast when the game is just broke all they are doing is in reality are bypassing the standard game ticking. Now pair this with attack speed of a weapon they're able to continue doing damage whilst instantly switching, eating, pot drinking all together and relying on RNG DAMAGE on top of that!!!. This is broken mechanic and messes with the universal game tick of actions that run at 0.6ms this is because of the switching mode is at 0.0ms and has no delay or queuing when clicked, giving the illusion of "INSTANT SWITCHES" as @Gretar and many other people think this is the best way of switching when in reality it is very far from the truth It is broken and should be fixed. 3# - One Ticking Just to touch on one ticking switches which you can't do on current ROAT PKZ 317. If you equip a string of items in the required game tick Universal Actions + Item switching = Timeframe (UA) 0.6ms + (IS) 0.6ms = (TF) 1.2 seconds So if I one tick a 6 way switch for instance videos for reference these aren't mine these are very good examples. Higher Revision (Pre Eoc) 718/735 etc Older Revison (07 Old school) 459, 474 etc In the time frame of 1.2 seconds give or take the variable can change to less being dependant on several factors Latency, Internet connection and Ping also the game being a lower revision or higher revision you may get a quicker equip or longer equip for a one tick. Conclusion Remove [ROAT] ITEM SWITCHING MODE replace with a revamped OSRS SWITCHING as I've previously mentioned time and time again. This is needed. Video footage of using OSRS Switching on Roat Pkz If any thing is broken ill fix the thread again. Video Follow up - 18/05/2017 Using OSRS switching Edited July 25, 2017 by Mead Reposted for Beta client 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ungrateful Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) Good find brother, hopefully it gets fixed or they could speed up on the new client to fix this issue! i'd give u rep but i can't cus i used my 8 lelel.. Edited April 6, 2017 by Ungrateful 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alt Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 I love you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLIND Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Very nice and in depth thread. It should be looked into and possibly even polled to remove the roat switches. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakR Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Nice i toally agree 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mead Posted April 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 (edited) @Gretar Posted Video Gifs and touched on a few things. Edited April 7, 2017 by Mead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatcx Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 You have 11 posts and bring out this beauty of a post Jesus mate good shit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandal Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Nice 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tupac Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Agree with this 100%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rijkerd2 Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 I'm sure @Gretar will take a look at this =) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK Guy Posted April 7, 2017 Report Share Posted April 7, 2017 Well put together man, this puts it into perspective for me. I see exactly what you mean and it's a surprising oversight that I can't believe hasn't been pointed out by anyone until now. I'm aware of constant complaints about switching but this pinpoints the root cause precisely. Just a note though, I know it pretty much doesn't matter but I picked up on the fact you mentioned several times 0.6ms when you mean 600ms (0.6 sec) BUT we know what you mean. Also, you're spot on about messing with ticks fucks up the server overall, I remember changing game tick to 500ms (1/2 second is easier number to work with) on a source and it breaks a lot of things actually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mead Posted April 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) bump @Salad @Gretar Edited April 17, 2017 by Mead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millen Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 (edited) 10/10 definitely support Edited April 17, 2017 by Millen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salad Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Mead said: bump @Salad @Gretar I like salad and salad dressing tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoobs Posted April 17, 2017 Report Share Posted April 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Salad said: I like salad and salad dressing tbh Do you actually eat salad, are you a vegetarian ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mead Posted May 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mead Posted May 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 On 4/17/2017 at 8:57 AM, Salad said: I like salad and salad dressing tbh ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORILLAS Posted May 18, 2017 Report Share Posted May 18, 2017 Probs won't be looked at until new client release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mead Posted May 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 Needs fixing asap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kihfan55 Posted May 25, 2017 Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Mead said: Needs fixing asap Wtf nacho limey old pkr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mead Posted May 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 18 hours ago, Kihfan55 said: Wtf nacho limey old pkr <3 yes old timer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alt Posted May 28, 2017 Report Share Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) @Gretar @Salad Edited May 28, 2017 by Alt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Clean switches brother 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mead Posted June 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2017 On 6/1/2017 at 0:29 AM, Isaiah said: Clean switches brother Thank you. bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mead Posted June 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 --bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLIND Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Yes, we've all seen it, no need to bump it anymore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mead Posted June 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 On 6/6/2017 at 9:21 PM, JBLIND™ said: Yes, we've all seen it, no need to bump it anymore I'll continue to bump it. I haven't heard a good enough response from @Salad @Gretar about when this issue regarding fixing it. His response was: On 4/17/2017 at 8:57 AM, Salad said: I like salad and salad dressing tbh He may of browsed the thread however I was looking for a more informative response and not about food. @Salad @Gretar When this is patched? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLIND Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 Locking the thread, Gretar and Salad will have the privileges to reply if they want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mead Posted July 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Video gifs are now watchable without clicking the links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 Funny how everyone is trying to turn roatpkz into osrs, if you don't like the client, don't play it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyaku Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 On 17/07/2017 at 3:36 AM, I d0wn U said: Funny how everyone is trying to turn roatpkz into osrs, if you don't like the client, don't play it. hi how is tony hawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mead Posted July 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) Added 2 more videos from 24/07/2017 (1/3) Roat Osrs Switching bug (Not responsive) & (2/3) Roat Osrs Switching bug (Not responsive) scroll up in thread to see. Added another (3/3) Roat Osrs Switching bug (Not responsive) 25/07/2017 Edited July 25, 2017 by Mead Added another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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