Yoobs & the new forum update

[Why Gg]

I agree you've done a lot for the forums, but it doesn't change the fact that you've handed out unfairly punishments one too many times to the same group of members, deny it if you want but you're a biased staff member and that's facts. The amount of times another staff member has had to undo the punishments you set me with poor/or no reasoning behind it is actually a joke. Yeah we can all agree you've worked and spent time trying to improve the server but you take advantage of the powers that come with your rank and you know it yourself. You could complain that the people you punish are toxic etc (90% of the players on RoatPkz are) but the truth is when it comes to that you're far more toxic than any one on the game and you're meant to be an admin lmfao the way you respond to certain players makes this server look trashy as fuck. I think it's best for the server if John and hopefully soon some new forum moderators handle punishments on here (that way we won't have so much biased staff able to do whatever they want it's bad enough we already have that in-game). Staff members represent the server most of them do a good job at it except you. I've been active on this game long before you became staff and I strongly believe that from what I've seen since you've become a staff member on this server is that you're way too disrespectful towards players (even new ones) and barely help them when they are in need of it. You're an admin on a server with a PB of over 200, you need to act/behave like it.

http://imgur.com/a/gD2qA

http://imgur.com/a/NabOU

 

 

 

Would appreciate it if this thread doesn't get locked as it's just my personal opinion and overview of things. 

Edited January 26, 2017 by Why Gg

[Rijkerd2]

I honestly disagree man, look everyone has that little dick in him. But if you really know @Yoobs as a person he is actually a good person. Ofcourse something happend here and there but that could happen to everyone. Sometimes its just not his day and we gotta deal with it.

[Why Gg]

Just now, Rijkerd2 said:

I honestly disagree man, look everyone has that little dick in him. But if you really know @Yoobs as a person he is actually a good person. Ofcourse something happend here and there but that could happen to everyone. Sometimes its just not his day and we gotta deal with it.

Yeah, trust me he's great!!!

http://imgur.com/a/O3BmP

http://imgur.com/a/iQFJT

 

[she rags]

2 minutes ago, Rijkerd2 said:

I honestly disagree man, look everyone has that little dick in him. But if you really know @Yoobs as a person he is actually a good person. Ofcourse something happend here and there but that could happen to everyone. Sometimes its just not his day and we gotta deal with it.

"sometimes its not his day"

ím done

+1 to omar cuz its true

[Rijkerd2]

7 minutes ago, she rags said:

"sometimes its not his day"

ím done

+1 to omar cuz its true

Omar? 

[SmokeyMontana]

As soon yoobs started teleing ppl out the wildy this shoulda been looked into but ye

 

 

Edited January 26, 2017 by SmokeyMontana

[Browsing]

Wahhhhhh!!!!! All of a sudden I want staff to act different than me because I didn't get it and only got my angel cape!!! Wahhhhhhhhh i don't flame yoobs stop abusing wahhhhhh I'm a cwy bwaby wrat and if you checked my chat logs I'd be mac banned but I'm gonna make an emotional post bcus I got punished wahhhhh!!!!!!! 

[Yoobs]

47 minutes ago, Why Gg said:

I agree you've done a lot for the forums, but it doesn't change the fact that you've handed out unfairly punishments one too many times to the same group of members, deny it if you want but you're a biased staff member and that's facts. The amount of times another staff member has had to undo the punishments you set me with poor/or no reasoning behind it is actually a joke. Yeah we can all agree you've worked and spent time trying to improve the server but you take advantage of the powers that come with your rank and you know it yourself. You could complain that the people you punish are toxic etc (90% of the players on RoatPkz are) but the truth is when it comes to that you're far more toxic than any one on the game and you're meant to be an admin lmfao the way you respond to certain players makes this server look trashy as fuck. I think it's best for the server if John and hopefully soon some new forum moderators handle punishments on here (that way we won't have so much biased staff able to do whatever they want it's bad enough we already have that in-game). Staff members represent the server most of them do a good job at it except you. I've been active on this game long before you became staff and I strongly believe that from what I've seen since you've become a staff member on this server is that you're way too disrespectful towards players (even new ones) and barely help them when they are in need of it. You're an admin on a server with a PB of over 200, you need to act/behave like it.

http://imgur.com/a/gD2qA

http://imgur.com/a/NabOU

Would appreciate it if this thread doesn't get locked as it's just my personal opinion and overview of things. 

I would disagree saying i've handed out "unfairly punishments" whatever that means i think you mean "unfair punishments" and it's the same group of members aka Lavish because your particular group in question is the most toxic group of players on the game that have been banned and muted more times on this game than anyone other players. You cannot say i have handed out "unfairly punishments" when you and smokey and she rags have been given more chances than anyone else on this game for example she rags getting un 5 marked twice and just take a look at your post history and that's enough valid reasoning behind a forums ban especially after you have been warned to stop toxic. The only reason you got your forums punishment lifted is because i pushed for Taylor to be unpunished off the forums therefore John is taking the attitude that "every deserves a second chance" and by the way all staff will be getting their powers back on the forums including me but there will be stricter guidelines enforced and Zoradz and John will have to over look all forums punishments. I wouldn't deny the fact i have been quick to punish or have been disrespectful in the past and i'm not far more toxic than anyone else in this game i mean that's bullshit and you know it which is pretty funny. You know full well i do a good job and if i didn't do a good job why would of i been a staff member for 2 years like that makes no sense lmao. I help more players and take more of a positive attitude than other staff member and it's pretty funny because in those screenshots i'm obviously being sarcastic to the player in question and then i gave him the id's to spawn the clothing and he said thank you. I always help players and ask any other staff member to confirm that and there's a lot of players you can ask and they will confirm i mean for someone who spends 10+ hours a day on RoatPKZ and i "barely help players when they are in need of it" clearly you're looking in the wrong players and even if i'm not online i'm mostly there helping server support's help players in the staff chat and logging in to punish players when it is needed. If this was another player i would actually take this seriously but 90% of the player base knows exactly what your clan is like and the attitude they take and if you have an issue with me feel free to report me but all staff hate Lavish so i mean it's pretty funny you bring this up with me. You're a player on a server with a PB of over 200 don't start acting all serious and telling me to act/behave like an admin when you're one of the most toxic players it's just ridiculous.

33 minutes ago, SmokeyMontana said:

As soon yoobs started teleing ppl out the wildy this shoulda been looked into but ye

 

 

I mean it was looked into?? You don't even know what you're talking about that's a bit awkward isn't it

[Browsing]

State of u Roshan-up in arms when you type the most flame on the server (although most of is indecipherable due to broken english/random #s bcus arab lol) why do you think your opinion on punishments should be thought highly of when you get punished daily?

you're a toxic chimp and hopefully someone gives u ur angel cape back so u can go back to being a model player and not try to act like ur from the hood  

[Pedro]

yoobs is the MVP

[Smackd]

I wouldve banned you too but forever

[Yoobs]

Oh yeah and also you say i'm biased to the same group of people but it's interesting because i'm just looking at your yell logs and your forums posts logs and also Smokey's and one look at those is enough to punish any player for a pretty decent amount of time i just find it very interesting that you see me as the biased one and also screenshot's from months ago ? That's interesting also because i mean i'm not a moderator anymore so i must of done something right to actually get promoted in the first place i mean idk though?? I think the staff team just have it out for Lavish and it's nothing to do with the fact that their the scum of the server it's to do with the fact that we actually just hate them all haha i totally agree with this actually it's a very valid statement that you have tried to put forward and i can seriously see this concerns.

VS ME

I'm seeing an interesting theme here guys idk about you lmao?

[Rijkerd2]

2 minutes ago, Yoobs said:

Oh yeah and also you say i'm biased to the same group of people but it's interesting because i'm just looking at your yell logs and your forums posts logs and also Smokey's and one look at those is enough to punish any player for a pretty decent amount of time i just find it very interesting that you see me as the biased one and also screenshot's from months ago ? That's interesting also because i mean i'm not a moderator anymore so i must of done something right to actually get promoted in the first place i mean idk though?? I think the staff team just have it out for Lavish and it's nothing to do with the fact that their the scum of the server it's to do with the fact that we actually just hate them all haha i totally agree with this actually it's a very valid statement that you have tried to put forward and i can seriously see this concerns.

VS ME

I'm seeing an interesting theme here guys idk about you lmao?

Says enough  

[Dr4g0nb0ys0n]

3 minutes ago, Yoobs said:

Oh yeah and also you say i'm biased to the same group of people but it's interesting because i'm just looking at your yell logs and your forums posts logs and also Smokey's and one look at those is enough to punish any player for a pretty decent amount of time i just find it very interesting that you see me as the biased one and also screenshot's from months ago ? That's interesting also because i mean i'm not a moderator anymore so i must of done something right to actually get promoted in the first place i mean idk though?? I think the staff team just have it out for Lavish and it's nothing to do with the fact that their the scum of the server it's to do with the fact that we actually just hate them all haha i totally agree with this actually it's a very valid statement that you have tried to put forward and i can seriously see this concerns.

VS ME

I'm seeing an interesting theme here guys idk about you lmao?

LMFAO foreign fuck dont even bother replying u got demolished @Why Gg

 

 

 

btw u mite aswell get back 2 what u was doing not more than 1 month ago

[SmokeyMontana]

17 minutes ago, Yoobs said:

Oh yeah and also you say i'm biased to the same group of people but it's interesting because i'm just looking at your yell logs and your forums posts logs and also Smokey's and one look at those is enough to punish any player for a pretty decent amount of time i just find it very interesting that you see me as the biased one and also screenshot's from months ago ? That's interesting also because i mean i'm not a moderator anymore so i must of done something right to actually get promoted in the first place i mean idk though?? I think the staff team just have it out for Lavish and it's nothing to do with the fact that their the scum of the server it's to do with the fact that we actually just hate them all haha i totally agree with this actually it's a very valid statement that you have tried to put forward and i can seriously see this concerns.

VS ME

I'm seeing an interesting theme here guys idk about you lmao?

ye topic isnt about us its about u if I was staff i wouldnt be on 1 of those lool ur yell logs are prob the same ting 

[Smackd]

8 minutes ago, SmokeyMontana said:

ye topic isnt about us its about u if I was staff i wouldnt be on 1 of those lool ur yell logs are prob the same ting 

Can you use your head for once in your life, he's clearly showing the punishment you guys get are not abuse and they're well deserved, need me to slow down a bit?

[Estimated]

I can say i got unfair punished by yoobs a lot of times, but it was long time ago and he's pretty good now probably one of the best staff lmao

[Yoobs]

7 minutes ago, SmokeyMontana said:

ye topic isnt about us its about u if I was staff i wouldnt be on 1 of those lool ur yell logs are prob the same ting 

How is that even a valid response to anything that has been stated above you're saying i'm biased and only punish your group of players and that it's an unfair punishments but i just provided evidence of what you're like in-game and on the forums you're mentioning irrelevant things because people aren't agreeing with you and i provided my most recent yell logs in the screenshot above? Stop trying to argue an invalid point because you have seen that there is weakness amongst the staff team atm because of the forums issues and then praying on that issue in order to try and further your cause because its really not going to work i think somehow i would be picked over lavish especially as every single staff member loves me but hates you?

1 minute ago, Estimated said:

I can say i got unfair punished by yoobs a lot of times, but it was long time ago and he's pretty good now probably one of the best staff lmao

I wouldn't disagree that your 5 mark was a bit hasty but i wouldn't react like that in a similar situation and if i could lift your 5 mark i would.

[SmokeyMontana]

1 minute ago, Smackd said:

Can you use your head for once in your life, he's clearly showing the punishment you guys get are not abuse and they're well deserved, need me to slow down a bit?

? i wasnt punished for anything lmfao 

[Smackd]

1 minute ago, SmokeyMontana said:

? i wasnt punished for anything lmfao 

I'm talking about your "group" in general.

1 hour ago, Why Gg said:

you've handed out unfairly punishments one too many times to the same group of members

 

[SmokeyMontana]

2 minutes ago, Smackd said:

I'm talking about your "group" in general.

 

ye because when he says group its supposed to automatically be lavish? god youre dumb lmfao 

7 minutes ago, Yoobs said:

How is that even a valid response to anything that has been stated above you're saying i'm biased and only punish your group of players and that it's an unfair punishments but i just provided evidence of what you're like in-game and on the forums you're mentioning irrelevant things because people aren't agreeing with you and i provided my most recent yell logs in the screenshot above? Stop trying to argue an invalid point because you have seen that there is weakness amongst the staff team atm because of the forums issues and then praying on that issue in order to try and further your cause because its really not going to work i think somehow i would be picked over lavish especially as every single staff member loves me but hates you?

omg bro!! every single staff member loves you but hates me what am i gonna do now lool cry me a river about u not being able to ban ppl on forums for stupid shit anymore weirdo 

[Smackd]

Just now, SmokeyMontana said:

ye because when he says group its supposed to automatically be lavish? god youre dumb lmfao 

What other group is he in besides lavish, god damn your mentally slow

[J J]

Just now, SmokeyMontana said:

ye because when he says group its supposed to automatically be lavish? god youre dumb lmfao 

Lol idc you're a fucking retarded fuck that hops onto anyone's dick when you have no clue about what you're on. You don't even understand half the shit yoobs has done cos u started after him. This forums is because he did it? I know that cos when it came to being created Jason and him linked me in. The fact of the matter is your group which is true to say most of your people are just dumb. They say shit to staff and are just toxic. The fact your still on this server is a concern you goofy eyed arabic dickhead(not flame cos it's true)

[Yoobs]

1 minute ago, SmokeyMontana said:

ye because when he says group its supposed to automatically be lavish? god youre dumb lmfao 

omg bro!! every single staff member loves you but hates me what am i gonna do now lool cry me a river about u not being able to ban ppl on forums for stupid shit anymore weirdo 

You're actually so broken lmfao you start posting about me then you cant back your ends when i revert it on you and now your talking about the forums permissions like its relevant to what we were discussing before? This is so funny i mean you say Smackd is dumb but you have resorted to try and insult us because you cant comprehend us on an intellectual level i can see that 16 year olds are more underdeveloped than i ever realized.

[J J]

6 minutes ago, Yoobs said:

You're actually so broken lmfao you start posting about me then you cant back your ends when i revert it on you and now your talking about the forums permissions like its relevant to what we were discussing before? This is so funny i mean you say Smackd is dumb but you have resorted to try and insult us because you cant comprehend us on an intellectual level i can see that 16 year olds are more underdeveloped than i ever realized.

He's two years behind cos 58 dillz said he'd be young forever whilst rubbing bio oil on his stretch marks

not too mention the bias of punishments rn isn't that bias I don't see many meridian accs getting away with it. The server is pretty balanced.

@she rags well done on not flaming tho LY x

Edited January 26, 2017 by J J

[Smackd]

8 minutes ago, SmokeyMontana said:

ye because when he says group its supposed to automatically be lavish? god youre dumb lmfao 

Its not lavish! Even though your group is in your cringe sig lmfao i pray for your mental health

[SmokeyMontana]

Just now, Smackd said:

Its not lavish! Even though your group is in your cringe sig lmfao i pray for your mental health

Clown lmfao just because he said group doesnt mean its referring to lavish lmfao only half the ppl in that sig use forums actively 

[J J]

1 minute ago, Smackd said:

Its not lavish! Even though your group is in your cringe sig lmfao i pray for your mental health

Need to change that smokey980925 cos mans got shot down out of the server ..

Just now, SmokeyMontana said:

Clown lmfao just because he said group doesnt mean its referring to lavish lmfao only half the ppl in that sig use forums actively 

You aren't black kasheem

[Yoobs]

1 minute ago, SmokeyMontana said:

Clown lmfao just because he said group doesnt mean its referring to lavish lmfao only half the ppl in that sig use forums actively 

Why aren't you replying to me and why are you typing in proper English now? That's everyone in Lavish expect for a few people in your signature so how isn't that not referring to Lavish?

[Why Gg]

You actually took your time to find all of that I could easily do the same to you but pretty much anyone who plays this game actively already knows you're abusive and target one specific group of members, lmfao you are biased and treat certain people differently even if two same people broke the same rule one would get treated differently depending on how you are with them. Tbh it doesn't matter cos at the end of the day I'm just a player and after all it's roatpkz pretty much every one flames on here it's dumb to single me out. You however are a staff member an admin in fact so don't compare yourself to me. The whole point is you're biased, for example this is what happened the other day for those who are unaware:

Yoobs logged in, we was speaking and he shit talked bilal and I simply said bilal is better than you go fight him, he started speaking about how he beat him and as a joke i said no one cares dont tell me your life story (didnt flame at all), instantly got muted and my "lavish" account got banned when I told him to stop being emotional and stop playing games. He has mood swings as if he's a child and punishes for self-entertainment. There was videos/screenshots showcasing everything but nothing happened. I don't get why you're crying about your forum powers being taken away from you when you don't deserve them in the first place? Doing a few things for the server doesn't make up for all the times you've banned or punished unfairly not to mention in-game teleing yourself & other people out of wild lmao fix up.

 

 

[J J]

1 minute ago, Why Gg said:

You actually took your time to find all of that I could easily do the same to you but pretty much anyone who plays this game actively already knows you're abusive and target one specific group of members, lmfao you are biased and treat certain people differently even if two same people broke the same rule one would get treated differently depending on how you are with them. Tbh it doesn't matter cos at the end of the day I'm just a player and after all it's roatpkz pretty much every one flames on here it's dumb to single me out. You however are a staff member an admin in fact so don't compare yourself to me. The whole point is you're biased, for example this is what happened the other day for those who are unaware:

Yoobs logged in, we was speaking and he shit talked bilal and I simply said bilal is better than you go fight him, he started speaking about how he beat him and as a joke i said no one cares dont tell me your life story (didnt flame at all), instantly got muted and my "lavish" account got banned when I told him to stop being emotional and stop playing games. He has mood swings as if he's a child and punishes for self-entertainment. There was videos/screenshots showcasing everything but nothing happened. I don't get why you're crying about your forum powers being taken away from you when you don't deserve them in the first place? Doing a few things for the server doesn't make up for all the times you've banned or punished unfairly not to mention in-game teleing yourself & other people out of wild lmao fix up.

 

 

Omar bruv I ain't beefing with you but like if you think yoobs is abusive you ain't met some of the people this server had or spoke to em. 

Instead of hinting at the abuse man I'm pretty sure yoobs and smackd etc have agreed to the staff report section just post it there and let it be dealt with by Zoradz who ain't even bias?

[SmokeyMontana]

8 minutes ago, Yoobs said:

Why aren't you replying to me and why are you typing in proper English now? That's everyone in Lavish expect for a few people in your signature so how isn't that not referring to Lavish?

Rofl cuz i dont care ur getting 2 emotional over losing forum bans lool ur already going through a lot its ok buddy time will heal it 

[Yoobs]

Just now, Why Gg said:

You actually took your time to find all of that I could easily do the same to you but pretty much anyone who plays this game actively already knows you're abusive and target one specific group of members, lmfao you are biased and treat certain people differently even if two same people broke the same rule one would get treated differently depending on how you are with them. Tbh it doesn't matter cos at the end of the day I'm just a player and after all it's roatpkz pretty much every one flames on here it's dumb to single me out. You however are a staff member an admin in fact so don't compare yourself to me. The whole point is you're biased, for example this is what happened the other day for those who are unaware:

Yoobs logged in, we was speaking and he shit talked bilal and I simply said bilal is better than you go fight him, he started speaking about how he beat him and as a joke i said no one cares dont tell me your life story (didnt flame at all), instantly got muted and my "lavish" account got banned when I told him to stop being emotional and stop playing games. He has mood swings as if he's a child and punishes for self-entertainment. There was videos/screenshots showcasing everything but nothing happened. I don't get why you're crying about your forum powers being taken away from you when you don't deserve them in the first place? Doing a few things for the server doesn't make up for all the times you've banned or punished unfairly not to mention in-game teleing yourself & other people out of wild lmao fix up.

I mean it took me 5 minutes to get those screenshots it was literally just looking at your latest posts and typing a few words and then highlighting a few corners to screenshot and i mean i even provided my own recent activity so i mean like i did the same to myself and look at the difference and i punish pretty much everyone and anyone on the server i don't just target "one specific group of members" and i mean that's not true at all either on the second part i was extremely good friends with Chris when i mac-banned him for ddosing and he got a second chance like a lot of people get i mean some stay perm banned but he got a second chance and didn't ddos any players on RoatPKZ again so what can i say. If it doesn't matter to you then why are you trying to create a topic about it and bringing it up don't try and say i'm biased and focus one group of players when in fact i provided you with more than enough evidence for a forums punishment and also an in-game punishment tbh and the whole point isn't that i'm biased you keep bringing up random points about random things. You actually took time out of your day to post this thread in proper English instead of your usual street talk and even brought up screenshots from months ago that i never knew were even taken but you say to me "i took my time to find that all?" pretty ironic isn't it lmao.

You did actually flame you called me a "dumb ass" amongst other things so i mean try again on that part and your lavish account didn't get banned it got muted when u came on and tried to carried on flaming me calling me a "cry baby" etc so i just quickly dealt with you to prevent you from causing anymore issues and i don't punish for self-entertainment i punish when a player in question does something punishable. The videos and screenshots showcasing were in fact passed around the staff team and shown to Gretar and Zoradz who both didn't take action and didn't really say anything about the situation so i somehow don't think in the wrong. There we go again you saying i'm "crying about my forums powers" but you previously stated above that i had done a good job on the forums but now you're proceeding to contradict yourself after you have made yourself look like an idiot and i do more for the server than anyone one else and teleing myself out of the wild isn't relevant to forums powers discussion or even being biased lmfao so why are you talking about that you're just full of shit?

[Treekzo]

yoobs is better then all u lavish wanna be thug soft talking pussy ass hoes lmfao

[Yoobs]

1 minute ago, SmokeyMontana said:

Rofl cuz i dont care ur getting 2 emotional over losing forum bans lool ur already going through a lot its ok buddy time will heal it 

I mean why are you talking about irrelevant things again one minute this thread is about me abusing and then the next minute it's about forums ban and then the next minute is about me being biased i mean how delusional are you actually? I'm not emotional at all i'm merely replying to the comments you have provided to me and the things you have said about me and i really don't care if you're allowed on the forums or not i mean i know my punishments were correct and i know you deserved to be punished in fact you're the one who seems a little emotional that you have been bested so badly on the forums and exposed so hard you cant even formulate a valid response to what i'm saying to you but again what do i expect from someone like you

[SmokeyMontana]

4 minutes ago, Yoobs said:

I mean why are you talking about irrelevant things again one minute this thread is about me abusing and then the next minute it's about forums ban and then the next minute is about me being biased i mean how delusional are you actually? I'm not emotional at all i'm merely replying to the comments you have provided to me and the things you have said about me and i really don't care if you're allowed on the forums or not i mean i know my punishments were correct and i know you deserved to be punished in fact you're the one who seems a little emotional that you have been bested so badly on the forums and exposed so hard you cant even formulate a valid response to what i'm saying to you but again what do i expect from someone like you

didnt read that stop crying 

[Treekzo]

smokey wishes he was black irl

[Smackd]

6 minutes ago, Yoobs said:

I mean why are you talking about irrelevant things again one minute this thread is about me abusing and then the next minute it's about forums ban and then the next minute is about me being biased i mean how delusional are you actually? I'm not emotional at all i'm merely replying to the comments you have provided to me and the things you have said about me and i really don't care if you're allowed on the forums or not i mean i know my punishments were correct and i know you deserved to be punished in fact you're the one who seems a little emotional that you have been bested so badly on the forums and exposed so hard you cant even formulate a valid response to what i'm saying to you but again what do i expect from someone like you

Allow him he never got passed 6th grade

[Rijkerd2]

2 minutes ago, Treekzo said:

smokey wishes he was black irl

Ikr l0l

[catlover911]

If i was staff i wouldve banned whole lavish already ROFL #FREEYOOBS2017

[Tesfxye]

Allow the beef until I get on ffs

[Yoobs]

19 minutes ago, SmokeyMontana said:

didnt read that stop crying 

You couldn't comprehend it even if you did read it your pre-pubescent mind cant handle such words of wisdom.

[Bart]

Give up on these boys @Yoobs ur the best

[GORILLAS]

bare beef. Both yoobs and lavish can be toxic and flame, i just feel lavish are the only people who suffer from it. Tbf yoobs u did say that if somebody flamed u, u wld respond/retaliate. I agree with that but therefore surely Lavish should be treated equally when they flame back? Either no punishments for all or everyone suffers coz its just a big flame war the majority of the time

Edited January 27, 2017 by GORILLAS

[Tesfxye]

2 hours ago, Yoobs said:

I would disagree saying i've handed out "unfairly punishments" whatever that means i think you mean 

(Imo from my experience with yoobs) yoobs is like 70/30 

70% of the time u can banter with him and it's all cool 

30% of the time u can't say his name without catching a mute 

 exaggerated of course  but explains the point that yoobs is a good staff but if he doesn't like you he won't hesitate to abuse his powers with you which is probably the case here. Although yoobs does more good than bad, again imo, he shouldn't be allowed to abuse his powers and then use that as an excuse. 

Punishments are always going to be inconsistent, if you are friends with staff you can get a way with anything, they may even get IPs for you.

[Why Gg]

1 hour ago, Yoobs said:

I mean it took me 5 minutes to get those screenshots it was literally just looking at your latest posts and typing a few words and then highlighting a few corners to screenshot and i mean i even provided my own recent activity so i mean like i did the same to myself and look at the difference and i punish pretty much everyone and anyone on the server i don't just target "one specific group of members" and i mean that's not true at all either on the second part i was extremely good friends with Chris when i mac-banned him for ddosing and he got a second chance like a lot of people get i mean some stay perm banned but he got a second chance and didn't ddos any players on RoatPKZ again so what can i say. If it doesn't matter to you then why are you trying to create a topic about it and bringing it up don't try and say i'm biased and focus one group of players when in fact i provided you with more than enough evidence for a forums punishment and also an in-game punishment tbh and the whole point isn't that i'm biased you keep bringing up random points about random things. You actually took time out of your day to post this thread in proper English instead of your usual street talk and even brought up screenshots from months ago that i never knew were even taken but you say to me "i took my time to find that all?" pretty ironic isn't it lmao.

You did actually flame you called me a "dumb ass" amongst other things so i mean try again on that part and your lavish account didn't get banned it got muted when u came on and tried to carried on flaming me calling me a "cry baby" etc so i just quickly dealt with you to prevent you from causing anymore issues and i don't punish for self-entertainment i punish when a player in question does something punishable. The videos and screenshots showcasing were in fact passed around the staff team and shown to Gretar and Zoradz who both didn't take action and didn't really say anything about the situation so i somehow don't think in the wrong. There we go again you saying i'm "crying about my forums powers" but you previously stated above that i had done a good job on the forums but now you're proceeding to contradict yourself after you have made yourself look like an idiot and i do more for the server than anyone one else and teleing myself out of the wild isn't relevant to forums powers discussion or even being biased lmfao so why are you talking about that you're just full of shit?

You bringing up Chris is irrelevant not once did I mention nor bring him up so I really don't know why you're involving him in this. I never made a topic about that either.

The whole reasoning behind me saying you're biased is based on everything I've seen overtime it's nothing new. You haven't provided any part of evidence that's sufficient enough for me to be mac muted. The screenshots you showed is completely one sided, pretty sure it was you who said if you get flamed you're obviously going to flame back and that's all I did. If you can't put up both of the yell logs of whoever I was talking to it's irrelevant and pointless bringing up. Same goes for the forum screenshots, I might've flamed once or twice but other than that I didn't do it unless it came my way in the first place. Going around calling people "dumb muslim fuck" and shit doesn't compare to minor flame like "stfu" so another pointless thing to bring up. 

I didn't flame you at all, I was joking around with you not realising you was on one of your mood swings and said "do i care why you telling me your life story" and you said "thats it im done with you" and muted my account, I logged back in on my lavish account and it got banned when I asked you to stop playing games and being emotional/a cry baby. If you're gonna lie, at least do it properly lmfao:

http://prntscr.com/e0tfhx

http://imgur.com/lqReFvL <<<<<< Reason I got banned😂😂😂

I agreed when I said you did a good job on the forums I'm talking about updates, themes, handling appeals and basic shit like that. It's got nothing to do with you handing out punishments so how exactly am I contradicting myself are you dumb? Like I said you doing 1 or 2 good things for the server doesn't make up for the 6-7 bad things that come along with it e.g. being racist towards players, punishing unfairly etc. You teleporting yourself and others out the wild has got nothing to do with the forums, but I bring it up because it just shows you can't handle your powers in-game let alone on here.

 

 

 

[ahmed]

+1 omar

[Browsing]

2 hours ago, Why Gg said:

You actually took your time to find all of that I could easily do the same to you but pretty much anyone who plays this game actively already knows you're abusive and target one specific group of members, lmfao you are biased and treat certain people differently even if two same people broke the same rule one would get treated differently depending on how you are with them. Tbh it doesn't matter cos at the end of the day I'm just a player and after all it's roatpkz pretty much every one flames on here it's dumb to single me out. You however are a staff member an admin in fact so don't compare yourself to me. The whole point is you're biased, for example this is what happened the other day for those who are unaware:

Yoobs logged in, we was speaking and he shit talked bilal and I simply said bilal is better than you go fight him, he started speaking about how he beat him and as a joke i said no one cares dont tell me your life story (didnt flame at all), instantly got muted and my "lavish" account got banned when I told him to stop being emotional and stop playing games. He has mood swings as if he's a child and punishes for self-entertainment. There was videos/screenshots showcasing everything but nothing happened. I don't get why you're crying about your forum powers being taken away from you when you don't deserve them in the first place? Doing a few things for the server doesn't make up for all the times you've banned or punished unfairly not to mention in-game teleing yourself & other people out of wild lmao fix up.

 

 

ROFLLL in yells "Ahlie ahlie haha *insert internet gangster here*"

On the forums: *attempt* at being a professor with 3th grade grammar haha ahlie!

You're a mess bud. Pretty sad that you're trying to talk yourself into believing (as you do with 85-90% of your entire existence) something that just isn't true. You are a toxic parasite and the fact that you try to formulate a defense for yourself is just hilarious. If the staff went through every time you said "nigga" preceded or followed by some cancerous wannabe gangster..... effort, it would probably break the chat log system.

The fact you're trying now to speak with any level of comprehensible English (always knew Mr. Angel Cape would come back!) just shows how hypocritical you are in the sense of your attitude ingame and for damn sure how much of a wannabe E-gangster you are lmfao

2 hours ago, SmokeyMontana said:

Rofl cuz i dont care ur getting 2 emotional over losing forum bans lool ur already going through a lot its ok buddy time will heal it 

Time won't bring your dad back from the field mine in Qatar

[Dizzy Rascal]

4 hours ago, Why Gg said:

Yeah, trust me he's great!!!

http://imgur.com/a/O3BmP

http://imgur.com/a/iQFJT

 

I'd like to thank Yoobs for the things he has done before starting, and why gg well for opening up a dialogue that needs to be had.

I think it's an inherently flawed system, when a staff member isn't putting himself above what he's suppose to be in oversight of and routinely breaks the rules himself. That being sticking to the letter of the law, rather than going by brash heat in the moment decisions. However when you make the argument "oh this player" or this "group is toxic", and "they started it first so I'm merely fighting fire with fire" that's beyond mind boggling it's literally the definition of a childish argument. You're already showing bias by saying they're toxic, but when someone calls you out for doing the same thing your excuse is "it's so stressful doing this unpaid job" it's not mandatory slave labor. It's as simple as resigning, however if you're going to keep your job then don't use that excuse, because it is very hard to have sympathy for someone who's demeanor and morals matches those he punishes, not a single person will ask you to be perfect. When the owner himself has to come out and say enough is enough, with the brazen unmatched in game punishments linked to forum punishments and gives the power to one or two staff members it says enough. The fact you cried folly and threatened to quit to go to another server screams control issues, keep in mind any minor thing you want added I'm sure John is perfectly capable of downloading a simple plugin on the forums. Requesting an ip from John/Zoradz is not a big deal, for the most part you wouldn't even need one. 

[Yoobs]

4 minutes ago, Dizzy Rascal said:

I'd like to thank Yoobs for the things he has done before starting, and why gg well for opening up a dialogue that needs to be had.

I think it's an inherently flawed system, when a staff member isn't putting himself above what he's suppose to be in oversight of and routinely breaks the rules himself. That being sticking to the letter of the law, rather than going by brash heat in the moment decisions. However when you make the argument "oh this player" or this "group is toxic", and "they started it first so I'm merely fighting fire with fire" that's beyond mind boggling it's literally the definition of a childish argument. You're already showing bias by saying they're toxic, but when someone calls you out for doing the same thing your excuse is "it's so stressful doing this unpaid job" it's not mandatory slave labor. It's as simple as resigning, however if you're going to keep your job then don't use that excuse, because it is very hard to have sympathy for someone who's demeanor and morals matches those he punishes, not a single person will ask you to be perfect. When the owner himself has to come out and say enough is enough, with the brazen unmatched in game punishments linked to forum punishments and gives the power to one or two staff members it says enough. The fact you cried folly and threatened to quit to go to another server screams control issues, keep in mind any minor thing you want added I'm sure John is perfectly capable of downloading a simple plugin on the forums. Requesting an ip from John/Zoradz is not a big deal, for the most part you wouldn't even need one. 

I appreciate the complement and not disagreeing or stating Why GG cannot have an opinion but i have to disagree with most of your points. I do agree it can be a flawed system but disagree that staff put themselves above the rules and don't do what there suppose to do i would be interested to know what your in-game name is for the sake of arguments also. Making decisions in the heat of the moment is what we're meant to do we don't allow players to break the rules and then punish them after things have calmed down and all of the in-game punishments don't only just require evidence but Zoradz also goes through our punishments and will un-punish anyone that is seen as needed to be un-punished but we still have the power to punish players when it is needed unlike the forums which means we cannot punish anyone if it is needed and cannot deal with people or even delete threads on the forums we are expected to go through one person to deal with everything on the forums you cannot say that's not a system that could easily turn into a biased system. Not making the argument "this group is toxic" either they were merely stating how i pick on a singular group to punish and saying how i was "toxic" yet i was just stating the truth in terms of most of them are the most toxic players on the server in term of breaking rules etc and it's not "fighting fire with fire" it's about punishing players who are constantly breaking the rules and i have never used the "its so stressful ding this unpaid job" card ever people ask us in regards to if we get payed and as i've stated before we volunteer to do this as a favor to Gretar and all the staff team are humans at the end of the day. I disagree with what you say about people expecting me to be perfect as if any staff member remotely steps out of line or even says anything that could be deemed as 'unprofessional' holy hell breaks loose on the forums and in-game. The owner can feel free to have any opinion or do anything he wants but it doesn't mean we have to agree with it bearing in mind the whole entire staff team doesn't agree with this fyi. I don't care about the restrictions in terms of not being able to access ip's or not being able to install plugins its the fact that the power was randomly taken away and for no reason from every single member of staff and are often unappreciated for what we actually do especially for the horrendous people in this community and there's nothing else to it. I could of easily been staff in much larger communities who would appreciate the dedication and the effort but this community is nothing but toxic people who are the first to cry when a staff member punishes them especially when they have been punished fairly. I didn't "cry folly and threatened to quit" i stated my feelings on the matter and looked to see if anyone would provide some good insight for me or anything but yeah i can understand why you have taken it like that this is personally a large amount of issues that have been building up that lead to that post.

51 minutes ago, Why Gg said:

You bringing up Chris is irrelevant not once did I mention nor bring him up so I really don't know why you're involving him in this. I never made a topic about that either.

The whole reasoning behind me saying you're biased is based on everything I've seen overtime it's nothing new. You haven't provided any part of evidence that's sufficient enough for me to be mac muted. The screenshots you showed is completely one sided, pretty sure it was you who said if you get flamed you're obviously going to flame back and that's all I did. If you can't put up both of the yell logs of whoever I was talking to it's irrelevant and pointless bringing up. Same goes for the forum screenshots, I might've flamed once or twice but other than that I didn't do it unless it came my way in the first place. Going around calling people "dumb muslim fuck" and shit doesn't compare to minor flame like "stfu" so another pointless thing to bring up. 

I didn't flame you at all, I was joking around with you not realising you was on one of your mood swings and said "do i care why you telling me your life story" and you said "thats it im done with you" and muted my account, I logged back in on my lavish account and it got banned when I asked you to stop playing games and being emotional/a cry baby. If you're gonna lie, at least do it properly lmfao:

http://prntscr.com/e0tfhx

http://imgur.com/lqReFvL <<<<<< Reason I got banned😂😂😂

I agreed when I said you did a good job on the forums I'm talking about updates, themes, handling appeals and basic shit like that. It's got nothing to do with you handing out punishments so how exactly am I contradicting myself are you dumb? Like I said you doing 1 or 2 good things for the server doesn't make up for the 6-7 bad things that come along with it e.g. being racist towards players, punishing unfairly etc. You teleporting yourself and others out the wild has got nothing to do with the forums, but I bring it up because it just shows you can't handle your powers in-game let alone on here.

Bringing up Chris isn't irrelevant because you were stating that i just punished a specific group of players and let all the other groups of players get away with things but yeah totally irrelevant. I haven't provided sufficient evidence in your opinion not any other staff members opinions and the screenshots aren't "one sided" you always try to use the card that you were "flamed baited" and that you have never flamed first or caused any issues everyone just picks on poor Why Gg because hes always the one that's being bullied on the game and that's bullshit and you know it you flamed me in yell the second i came online for banning you on the forums then proceeded to flame me in chat after i disagreed with you on Bilal being a good pker and it's not irrelevant and pointless bringing up any the yell logs or the previous things you have said on the forums you're saying i'm toxic and i'm biased and you were unfairly punished but i'm providing more than enough evidence for why you have been punished and that's not even going deep into your logs you should count your stars that you're allowed to still play this game with the attitude you have. "i might've flamed once or twice" you actually talk so much rubbish every other word out of your mouth is flame especially in-game when you're acting like an e-gangster so i'm not really sure what you're trying to prove there and you never minor flame so i'm not sure who you're trying to convince here or why you're trying to paint yourself to look like an angel or something because it's just strange that suddenly you're this nice guy that has done nothing wrong and is being held down by the evil biased staff members. You weren't "joking around with me" you were trying to flame me and when you realized i couldn't be bothered with your shit you decided to carry on trying to bait me and call me a "cry baby" and all this rubbish so what do you expect of course i'm going to mute you and if you want someone to look into it speak to Zoradz and he will look into it and you asked me to "stop playing games" i'm not playing any games if you want to flame and be disrespectful i will punish you it's not that hard to understand is it? You listed 4-5 good things that i did for the forums btw and i have no idea why "teleporting yourself and others out the wild" (which was dealt with ages ago irrelevant but try harder to make me look bad) has anything to do with this or why you're even mentioning in-game issues on the forums and i mean it's easier to handle forums stuff then in-game stuff you realized you had ran out of things to say so you tried to mention things that have happened in-game but yeah keep at it even though we both know this will get you nowhere.

[GORILLAS]

2 hours ago, GORILLAS said:

bare beef. Both yoobs and lavish can be toxic and flame, i just feel lavish are the only people who suffer from it. Tbf yoobs u did say that if somebody flamed u, u wld respond/retaliate. I agree with that but therefore surely Lavish should be treated equally when they flame back? Either no punishments for all or everyone suffers coz its just a big flame war the majority of the time

+ slightly agree with rascal

[Tupac]

@Yoobs and @Smackd dummied the shit out of lavish on this post.

I laughed my ass off when Yoobs posted all of those screenshots, completely throwing your retard argument out of the window.

Lavish are just a bunch of wanna be hood rats. In reality you lost oxygen to your brain and it stopped developing at the age of 14. Stop trying to clap back you're just making yourself look worse. 

 

[Dizzy Rascal]

5 minutes ago, Yoobs said:

I appreciate the complement and not disagreeing or stating Why GG cannot have an opinion but i have to disagree with most of your points. I do agree it can be a flawed system but disagree that staff put themselves above the rules and don't do what there suppose to do i would be interested to know what your in-game name is for the sake of arguments also. Making decisions in the heat of the moment is what we're meant to do we don't allow players to break the rules and then punish them after things have calmed down and all of the in-game punishments don't only just require evidence but Zoradz also goes through our punishments and will un-punish anyone that is seen as needed to be un-punished but we still have the power to punish players when it is needed unlike the forums which means we cannot punish anyone if it is needed and cannot deal with people or even delete threads on the forums we are expected to go through one person to deal with everything on the forums you cannot say that's not a system that could easily turn into a biased system. Not making the argument "this group is toxic" either they were merely stating how i pick on a singular group to punish and saying how i was "toxic" yet i was just stating the truth in terms of most of them are the most toxic players on the server in term of breaking rules etc and it's not "fighting fire with fire" it's about punishing players who are constantly breaking the rules and i have never used the "its so stressful ding this unpaid job" card ever people ask us in regards to if we get payed and as i've stated before we volunteer to do this as a favor to Gretar and all the staff team are humans at the end of the day. I disagree with what you say about people expecting me to be perfect as if any staff member remotely steps out of line or even says anything that could be deemed as 'unprofessional' holy hell breaks loose on the forums and in-game. The owner can feel free to have any opinion or do anything he wants but it doesn't mean we have to agree with it bearing in mind the whole entire staff team doesn't agree with this fyi. I don't care about the restrictions in terms of not being able to access ip's or not being able to install plugins its the fact that the power was randomly taken away and for no reason from every single member of staff and are often unappreciated for what we actually do especially for the horrendous people in this community and there's nothing else to it. I could of easily been staff in much larger communities who would appreciate the dedication and the effort but this community is nothing but toxic people who are the first to cry when a staff member punishes them especially when they have been punished fairly. I didn't "cry folly and threatened to quit" i stated my feelings on the matter and looked to see if anyone would provide some good insight for me or anything but yeah i can understand why you have taken it like that this is personally a large amount of issues that have been building up that lead to that post.

When I said heat in the moment I meant as in hot headed, I'll list some examples for you. Yesterday or so, this one gentleman I forget his name and you were have a discussion, he didn't seem to be flaming or stepping over a boundary but you deadpanned told him to shut up and not make another peep. That itself encroaches on someones liberty to freely express themselves, and it honestly shocked me. Maybe Roatpkz is a unique culture, but where does the banter begin and end? I freely see Mods and you alike using the N word and not just the "a" ending either, if between friends whatever. However even in your own examples, you say things like typing or speaking like an Arab, how do you not realize that would alienate your Arabic friends, and brothers in your community. Rather then putting them down, raise them up to be encouraged to speak better English, maybe by pming them mistakes, linking them to grammar websites. Roatpkz is a diverse place, but rather than being tolerant of said cultures it seems like people take the good and shit on the bad. Using insults like "Ks amk" and other phrases alike. 

I certainly believe you should have more powers, however to the extent that John does? absolutely not forum admin has a specific title for a reason. The power to close or delete threads can be abused if more people are allowed the ability. The system Gretar was proposing has its flaws on one hand, it limits, on the other hand bureaucracy you have to go through, that being said unless it's a website advertiser, or someone releasing personal information; time of the essence is not a factor that should be considered.

You're saying you are not making the argument that they are not toxic, but then you say it is the truth I was confused there. When I say fighting fire with fire, I mean you have been seen by people getting into petty arguments and then coming out the victor simply by having the authority to punish said individual.

 

You say you've never made the argument that you don't paid to do this bullshit? 

No-one on the staff team gets payed to put up with the bullshit that all these players constantly give out and at the end of the day we're humans like you guys and want to have fun and want to have a laugh and don't always want to be so fucking serious about the game like yeah sometimes staff flame and sometimes staff can be a bit over the top but it doesn't mean that we're bad staff and it doesn't mean we don't work our asses off the game i mean it's like we slave for the game and at the end of it get nothing but random power shifts and issues from the players.

 

That's from your thread "General chat about staff"

 

When I say you don't have to be perfect, I do mean that people give shit to John about being biased but they don't link evidence. John rarely posts, because he may or may not be about quality, in return he does not end up in squabbles and is above reproach on the matter. Aside from the occasional banter, bare in mind you have been here for 2 years he's been here less, but he does not play the game either meaning even less dirt on his character. 

 

Look everyone understands the arguments it's tough dealing with a community of 200+ people, the only thing however everyone is screaming at you to understand is to be the bigger man. As in don't get in petty arguments, have fun in any kind of banter you want as long as it is in good nature. However the moment you become the person you repudiate, you lose any footing you lose any respect because respect is a two way street. There are so many options to deal with annoying members and adolescents, ignore feature, communication strictly with business if they've been punished, direct them to the right resources and then get out of that toxic conversation in itself. 

[John]

13 minutes ago, Dizzy Rascal said:

 

bare in mind you have been here for 2 years he's been here less, but he does not play the game either meaning even less dirt on his character. I've

Been here since 2011 actually, and I do care about quality of my posts but sometimes I like to meme like everyone does. regardless this entire thread has blown out of proportion 

[Dizzy Rascal]

6 minutes ago, John said:

Been here since 2011 actually.

Perhaps then being here in a more involved manner? my mistake however. 

 

Actually, I don't know you that well, I'll leave it to you to correct. 

Edited January 27, 2017 by Dizzy Rascal

[Browsing]

36 minutes ago, Dizzy Rascal said:

When I said heat in the moment I meant as in hot headed, I'll list some examples for you. Yesterday or so, this one gentleman I forget his name and you were have a discussion, he didn't seem to be flaming or stepping over a boundary but you deadpanned told him to shut up and not make another peep. That itself encroaches on someones liberty to freely express themselves, and it honestly shocked me. Maybe Roatpkz is a unique culture, but where does the banter begin and end? I freely see Mods and you alike using the N word and not just the "a" ending either, if between friends whatever. However even in your own examples, you say things like typing or speaking like an Arab, how do you not realize that would alienate your Arabic friends, and brothers in your community. Rather then putting them down, raise them up to be encouraged to speak better English, maybe by pming them mistakes, linking them to grammar websites. Roatpkz is a diverse place, but rather than being tolerant of said cultures it seems like people take the good and shit on the bad. Using insults like "Ks amk" and other phrases alike. 

I certainly believe you should have more powers, however to the extent that John does? absolutely not forum admin has a specific title for a reason. The power to close or delete threads can be abused if more people are allowed the ability. The system Gretar was proposing has its flaws on one hand, it limits, on the other hand bureaucracy you have to go through, that being said unless it's a website advertiser, or someone releasing personal information; time of the essence is not a factor that should be considered.

You're saying you are not making the argument that they are not toxic, but then you say it is the truth I was confused there. When I say fighting fire with fire, I mean you have been seen by people getting into petty arguments and then coming out the victor simply by having the authority to punish said individual.

 

You say you've never made the argument that you don't paid to do this bullshit? 

That's from your thread "General chat about staff"

 

When I say you don't have to be perfect, I do mean that people give shit to John about being biased but they don't link evidence. John rarely posts, because he may or may not be about quality, in return he does not end up in squabbles and is above reproach on the matter. Aside from the occasional banter, bare in mind you have been here for 2 years he's been here less, but he does not play the game either meaning even less dirt on his character. 

 

Look everyone understands the arguments it's tough dealing with a community of 200+ people, the only thing however everyone is screaming at you to understand is to be the bigger man. As in don't get in petty arguments, have fun in any kind of banter you want as long as it is in good nature. However the moment you become the person you repudiate, you lose any footing you lose any respect because respect is a two way street. There are so many options to deal with annoying members and adolescents, ignore feature, communication strictly with business if they've been punished, direct them to the right resources and then get out of that toxic conversation in itself. 

Gentleman? Liberties? Relax, chief. This is roatpkz not an 18th century congressional hearing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

You are typing as someone with no sense of the dynamic of the server, so how would you have an ability to make a case for yourself? All rsps aren't the same. Some private servers you can get banned for speaking in profanity and others you only get muted for leaking private information. I understand where you're coming from and you're asking moderators to be parents to the players and teach them right from wrong by example but that's not how things work around here. It's in a sense a dictatorship but that has never been a problem for its 6 years of existence and if you want to get banned for flaming then play a skilling server? Can't really say it any more plainly than it's a pking server and pkers flame.

I think you're idea that denoting people as toxic is biased to be utterly hilarious. So let me get this straight, you feel that people who consistently flame and get punished for their actions (by staff whom aren't even Yoobs) makes putting a label on them biased? I know people are raised differently but most who are punished try to take corrective measures to make certain they don't have to be punished again. For staff to keep having to take actions because certain people feel that ruining others experience doesn't matter to them isn't right nor fair. So if the same people are always getting punished and triggered by one another to taunt, troll, and violate rules, that would make them toxic. So to pull a quicker trigger on known toxic players is wrong to you?

"players say john are biased but don't link evidence" HA-evidence has been linked without effort to look even more in depth, but ok 

Respect is a two-way street? What fortune cookies have you actually been reading? Listen pal, all the stories you have about being presidential is unrealistic and doesn't serve fruit for administrating a private server. Admins have a job to communicate with a way they feel is appropriate for them. They don't have to, nor should they be held to the same standard as normal players. That may seem hypocritical but do you care at all about being realistic? Let's serve the facts

-annoying 16 year olds 

-17-19 year olds with dead banter/failing to be witty

-foreigners who can barely speak English 

I understand Yoobs has a staff position on an rsps and you've been told your entire e-life that means he is Ghandi but his position doesn't even mean what you interpret it to mean?

Server support - provide support

Moderator - moderate the server (hope u know what moderate means xP)

Administrator - administrate the server

Hope that cleared it up for you

Edited January 27, 2017 by Browsing

[John]

1 minute ago, Browsing said:

 

"players say john are biased but don't link evidence" HA-evidence has been linked without effort to look even more in depth, but ok 

 

Link it, so I can prove you people wrong lol

[Browsing]

18 minutes ago, John said:

Been here since 2011 actually, and I do care about quality of my posts but sometimes I like to meme like everyone does. regardless this entire thread has blown out of proportion 

You mean you logged into the server in 2011, leaked the db, ddosed, and left the server for 4 years*

[John]

Just now, Browsing said:

You mean you logged into the server in 2011, leaked the db, ddosed, and left the server for 4 years*

Totally, I actually enjoyed and played the server quite a bit.

[Dizzy Rascal]

23 minutes ago, Browsing said:

Gentleman? Liberties? Relax, chief. This is roatpkz not an 18th century congressional hearing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

You are typing as someone with no sense of the dynamic of the server, so how would you have an ability to make a case for yourself? All rsps aren't the same. Some private servers you can get banned for speaking in profanity and others you only get muted for leaking private information. I understand where you're coming from and you're asking moderators to be parents to the players and teach them right from wrong by example but that's not how things work around here. It's in a sense a dictatorship but that has never been a problem for its 6 years of existence and if you want to get banned for flaming then play a skilling server? Can't really say it any more plainly than it's a pking server and pkers flame.

I think you're idea that denoting people as toxic is biased to be utterly hilarious. So let me get this straight, you feel that people who consistently flame and get punished for their actions (by staff whom aren't even Yoobs) makes putting a label on them biased? I know people are raised differently but most who are punished try to take corrective measures to make certain they don't have to be punished again. For staff to keep having to take actions because certain people feel that ruining others experience doesn't matter to them isn't right nor fair. So if the same people are always getting punished and triggered by one another to taunt, troll, and violate rules, that would make them toxic. So to pull a quicker trigger on known toxic players is wrong to you?

"players say john are biased but don't link evidence" HA-evidence has been linked without effort to look even more in depth, but ok 

Respect is a two-way street? What fortune cookies have you actually been reading? Listen pal, all the stories you have about being presidential is unrealistic and doesn't serve fruit for administrating a private server. Admins have a job to communicate with a way they feel is appropriate for them. They don't have to, nor should they be held to the same standard as normal players. That may seem hypocritical but do you care at all about being realistic? Let's serve the facts

-annoying 16 year olds 

-17-19 year olds with dead banter/failing to be witty

-foreigners who can barely speak English 

I understand Yoobs has a staff position on an rsps and you've been told you're entire e-life that means he Ghandi but his position doesn't even mean what you interpret it to mean?

Server support - provide support

Moderator - moderate the server (hope u know what moderate means xP)

Administrator - administrate the server

Hope that cleared it up for you

I laughed, glad you have a sense of humor. 

 

Once you've put a label on someone out in the public, then automatically your perceived notion of them will affect your job. How they interact or your interaction with them will undoubtedly be affected by feelings which has no place in punishment. I don't want staff to hold someones hand, but they should be role models, trust means their behavior is on a pedestal. Everyone understands the idea of "fire is hot, I got burned must not touch fire", however if fire decides to actively engage you and feeds on the drama you fuel it with then that becomes a problem. Staff should deescalate, the issue that has been brought before us is staff escalation, from small snippets of conversations and multiple people telling you this it should absolutely be discussed; hence the fire extinguisher would be the peoples dissent. 

Pulling the trigger on someone who legitimately has broken the rules and proof provided, no one would have a problem with. Keep in mind I am not defending any specific person or group, I am saying a system that punishes conflict but thrives off it as well is not something we should advocate. If you get rid of someone from the community for previous bad behavior that is unholy repugnant, because it sets the precedent that anyone disliked by the ruling class can be excommunicated. As long as they obviously break a rule, but what you're suggesting is getting rid of them for past shit, how about no only person who should be able to do that is Gretar himself. Hell Gretar can get rid of you for pretty much anything regardless of rule break, "hey you just paid me 5k? and have been a model community member? well I'm kicking you out". As unlikely as that would be, I still would not have complaints even if he did that, mostly because it's in the TOS. 

 

It doesn't seem hypocritical if they are not held to the same standards, it is hypocritical. I don't know the age demography of our community but obviously it varies, I'd estimate between 15-20+, I am myself above the age of 20. Like I said diversity is great, while English is the pre dominant spoken language in this game, for the sole fact Jagex is located in the UK, and this is a mock up of their product, it doesn't mean we should favor intolerance over acceptance because they "speak funny". 

 

And, I hope this clears it up for you as well. 

Edited January 27, 2017 by Dizzy Rascal

[J J]

@Dizzy Rascal ur forum name and the way you speak don't match, change it to MP William or something. (I know who u are now very clearly my G)

end of the day this is retarded it went from forums to ingame blah blah. Yoobs ain't done anything wrong (apart from one small mishap) but he was sanctioned for that by gretar. If he did stuff wrong gretar would denote him again. Note this server from what I know aside from stijn who was the respected member then admin etc hasn't had someone as active as yoobs ever. Everyone has flaws but I see people like kasheem al falafel piping up saying if i were staff etc.. end of the day you aren't. Gretar is in charge of this and the staff have shown they were unhappy for the forums permissions etc gretar acc told me himself they're making a new system. All these bandwagon topics about yoobs is just tryna draw out something from nothing and quite frankly it's not needed. 

Yoobs has banned me before once but we sorted it straight away(nothing to sort TBH) he's banned my friends but they learn look at @Chayz @Xbrzh etc like no offence but the majority of this topic seems like lavish attacking yoobs purely because he's friends with meridian ? Like he doesn't use his staff powers wrongly- infact I've seen him jail Taylor for ragging etc and not get involved when a mod jails them. 

Imo @Yoobs dw about these numpties hating it's cos they're not looking at the bigger pic. 

Edited January 27, 2017 by J J

[Dizzy Rascal]

3 minutes ago, J J said:

@Dizzy Rascal ur forum name and the way you speak don't match, change it to MP William or something.

end of the day this is retarded it went from forums to ingame blah blah. Yoobs ain't done anything wrong (apart from one small mishap) but he was sanctioned for that by gretar. If he did stuff wrong gretar would denote him again. Note this server from what I know aside from stijn who was the respected member then admin etc hasn't had someone as active as yoobs ever. Everyone has flaws but I see people like kasheem al falafel piping up saying if i were staff etc.. end of the day you aren't. Gretar is in charge of this and the staff have shown they were unhappy for the forums permissions etc gretar acc told me himself they're making a new system. All these bandwagon topics about yoobs is just tryna draw out something from nothing and quite frankly it's not needed. 

Yoobs has banned me before once but we sorted it straight away(nothing to sort TBH) he's banned my friends but they learn look at @Chayz @Xbrzh etc like no offence but the majority of this topic seems like lavish attacking yoobs purely because he's friends with meridian ? Like he doesn't use his staff powers wrongly- infact I've seen him jail Taylor for ragging etc and not get involved when a mod jails them. 

Imo @Yoobs dw about these numpties hating it's cos they're not looking at the bigger pic. 

I tried downplaying the word usage, and trying to adapt to roat lingo, no one likes a thesaurus man, and ha. 

 

I'll apologize on my part for making this thread "blow out of proportion", however if common ground can be found and I believe it has then great. I applaud Yoobs for taking the time to discuss this with us, I applaud any staff member who takes what we've said today and perhaps apply it. If nothing changes then it is what it is. 

[J J]

11 minutes ago, Dizzy Rascal said:

I tried downplaying the word usage, and trying to adapt to roat lingo, no one likes a thesaurus man, and ha. 

 

I'll apologize on my part for making this thread "blow out of proportion", however if common ground can be found and I believe it has then great. I applaud Yoobs for taking the time to discuss this with us, I applaud any staff member who takes what we've said today and perhaps apply it. If nothing changes then it is what it is. 

Yeah I honestly think my personal experience with yoobs as I've known him for time and spoken and chilled with him. Like to me he ain't just staff he's a mate and I know if you say yoobs can I have a minute of your time just to chat one on one like say it nicely he will. Regardless if it's smokey or me etc - but to bring it back imagine if he was like a teacher and we were school trouble makers always get a bad rep that's why there's nothing that can be done about that.

[Yoobs]

20 minutes ago, Dizzy Rascal said:

I tried downplaying the word usage, and trying to adapt to roat lingo, no one likes a thesaurus man, and ha. 

 

I'll apologize on my part for making this thread "blow out of proportion", however if common ground can be found and I believe it has then great. I applaud Yoobs for taking the time to discuss this with us, I applaud any staff member who takes what we've said today and perhaps apply it. If nothing changes then it is what it is. 

I always discuss any matter with a player in question i have never had a problem with that and never will have a problem with that if someone has a problem i have no issue what so ever in them coming to me it's people that blow these issues out of proportion.

[Chayz]

Some of what you say makes sense but some of it is ignorant. It's true me and @Yoobs aren't the best of friends and you were probably in the same position like me where you didn't understand the actual reason for your ban trust me. Since I spoke to @Yoobs and we sorted it and it was clear he doesn't take bullshit so there has to have been at least one thing you did wrong which was worth punishment, maybe he did over punish but at the end of the day you still broke the rule. Like you're a nice guy and all but I'd just speak to him in private about it, making a thread is pointless. You could have just avoided this by not breaking any rules at all.

Edited January 28, 2017 by Chayz

[J J]

12 minutes ago, Chayz said:

Some of what you say makes sense but some of it is ignorant. It's true me and @Yoobs aren't the best of friends and you were probably in the same position like me where you didn't understand the actual reason for your ban trust me. Since I spoke to @Yoobs and we sorted it and it was clear he doesn't take bullshit so there has to have been at least one thing you did wrong which was worth punishment, maybe he did over punish but at the end of the day you still broke the rule. Like you're a nice guy and all but I'd just speak to him in private about it, making a thread is pointless. You could have just avoided this by not breaking any rules at all.

Well said, Friday prayer really changed u 

[Chayz]

3 minutes ago, J J said:

Well said, Friday prayer really changed u 

Nah, I just regained my common sense.

sidenote: sadly im still going hell so donate me some bacon

Edited January 28, 2017 by Chayz

[x0tic]

The RoatPkz forums have always been the birthplace of psychotic and framing discussions.

But i gotta be honest, sometimes i find this stuff very amusing.

- Mike

Edited January 28, 2017 by x0tic

[Dodo]

Lots of words on this post 

[Browsing]

6 minutes ago, Dodo said:

Lots of words on this post 

I'm sure u wish u could read some of it right

[Dodo]

2 minutes ago, Browsing said:

I'm sure u wish u could read some of it right

Na. If you got time to read that shit and it has nothing to do with you, you need a job or some shit to pass your time 

[Browsing]

1 minute ago, Dodo said:

Na. If you got time to read that shit and it has nothing to do with you, you need a job or some shit to pass your time 

Total of maybe 20 paragraphs is a lot for you? Lol......

[Dodo]

4 minutes ago, Browsing said:

Total of maybe 20 paragraphs is a lot for you? Lol......

Never said it was a lot I said it was a waste of time 

[Taco Man]

Who wants rag

 

[Zoradz]

I won't read anything you post until you learn what a paragraph is.

[Rijkerd2]

5 minutes ago, Zoradz said:

I won't read anything you post until you learn what a paragraph is.

+1

Edited February 3, 2017 by Rijkerd2
+1

[nick whimster]

23 minutes ago, Rijkerd2 said:

+1

+2

28 minutes ago, Zoradz said:

I won't read anything you post until you learn what a paragraph is.

+2

 

On 1/26/2017 at 11:16 AM, Rijkerd2 said:

I honestly disagree man, look everyone has that little dick in him. But if you really know @Yoobs as a person he is actually a good person. Ofcourse something happend here and there but that could happen to everyone. Sometimes its just not his day and we gotta deal with it.

mhm

 

On 1/26/2017 at 11:11 AM, Why Gg said:

I agree you've done a lot for the forums, but it doesn't change the fact that you've handed out unfairly punishments one too many times to the same group of members, deny it if you want but you're a biased staff member and that's facts. The amount of times another staff member has had to undo the punishments you set me with poor/or no reasoning behind it is actually a joke. Yeah we can all agree you've worked and spent time trying to improve the server but you take advantage of the powers that come with your rank and you know it yourself. You could complain that the people you punish are toxic etc (90% of the players on RoatPkz are) but the truth is when it comes to that you're far more toxic than any one on the game and you're meant to be an admin lmfao the way you respond to certain players makes this server look trashy as fuck. I think it's best for the server if John and hopefully soon some new forum moderators handle punishments on here (that way we won't have so much biased staff able to do whatever they want it's bad enough we already have that in-game). Staff members represent the server most of them do a good job at it except you. I've been active on this game long before you became staff and I strongly believe that from what I've seen since you've become a staff member on this server is that you're way too disrespectful towards players (even new ones) and barely help them when they are in need of it. You're an admin on a server with a PB of over 200, you need to act/behave like it.

http://imgur.com/a/gD2qA

http://imgur.com/a/NabOU

 

 

 

Would appreciate it if this thread doesn't get locked as it's just my personal opinion and overview of things. 

fuck you scamming sack of shit

[Lion Tales]

4 hours ago, Rijkerd2 said:

+1

+1

[nick whimster]

3 hours ago, SWAGMASTER said:

+1

me u and chalky = +3

[Gekkemokerr]

@Why Gg you have spoken👍👍

[Yoobs]

Just now, Gekkemokerr said:

@Why Gg you have spoken👍👍

Still mad you got punished can tell how fucking goofy you are lmfao

[Gekkemokerr]

Nah, youre mad everyday so i know what hes talking about.

You are flaming everyday kinda sad for you exactly, it seems me funny how you look in real life LOL

[Vos]

damn , it took a life time to write this all for yoobs , so u prob feel something for him

[B1G H0M1E]

Hey yoobs thanks for leaking all of the lavish members' IPs for me and all of the boys bc u kno, u do it all the time 

[Yoobs]

5 hours ago, Gekkemokerr said:

Nah, youre mad everyday so i know what hes talking about.

You are flaming everyday kinda sad for you exactly, it seems me funny how you look in real life LOL

Like the fact you literally just typed "seems me funny how you look in real life LOL" just proves just how autistic you really are by nature acting like irl matters at all. Don't act like you're not a prepubescent 14 year old lmfao. 

[Gekkemokerr]

@Yoobs man you racist fock one day gonna put my dick in youre mouth.

[Yoobs]

6 minutes ago, Gekkemokerr said:

@Yoobs man you racist fock one day gonna put my dick in youre mouth.

Thanks for the offer but i don't see myself sucking off a 14 year old i'm not in the mood for jail and i'm not a homo either but yeah do you want to type anymore like you suffer from a legit mental disability?

[Gekkemokerr]

@Yoobsim not 14, i can be youre dad son.

[Yoobs]

12 minutes ago, Gekkemokerr said:

@Yoobsim not 14, i can be youre dad son.

You still have clear sperm irl you can't even differentiate the difference between you're and your